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		<title>By: More on Garrison &#124; Random (but not really)</title>
		<link>http://klishis.com/notreally/archives/2191/comment-page-1#comment-2809</link>
		<dc:creator>More on Garrison &#124; Random (but not really)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 23:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] follow-up to the Faculty Senate vote happened today. The Faculty Assembly gathered for a vote of no confidence and demand for Garrison [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://klishis.com/notreally/archives/2191/comment-page-1#comment-2767</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I told you I&#039;m defensive about WVU. :)

It comes from growing up in WVU, I think, and being defensive about everything to do with the state.

But our rural health program is pretty awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told you I&#8217;m defensive about WVU. :)</p>
<p>It comes from growing up in WVU, I think, and being defensive about everything to do with the state.</p>
<p>But our rural health program is pretty awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: John the Scientist</title>
		<link>http://klishis.com/notreally/archives/2191/comment-page-1#comment-2766</link>
		<dc:creator>John the Scientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Pitt is not an altrusitic school by &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; stretch of the imagination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Pitt is not an altrusitic school by <i>any</i> stretch of the imagination.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://klishis.com/notreally/archives/2191/comment-page-1#comment-2764</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, we&#039;re in the top rankings for Rural Health!

And as many believe that should be the focus of WV&#039;s flagship school anyway, I&#039;m good with that. (It does two things--it gets students out into the community to provide health care to rural communities, and it exposes them to rural life, and the needs of these communities, which has increased the number of students willing to practice in rural areas. Pretty awesome actually.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, we&#8217;re in the top rankings for Rural Health!</p>
<p>And as many believe that should be the focus of WV&#8217;s flagship school anyway, I&#8217;m good with that. (It does two things&#8211;it gets students out into the community to provide health care to rural communities, and it exposes them to rural life, and the needs of these communities, which has increased the number of students willing to practice in rural areas. Pretty awesome actually.)</p>
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		<title>By: John the Scientist</title>
		<link>http://klishis.com/notreally/archives/2191/comment-page-1#comment-2763</link>
		<dc:creator>John the Scientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, no need to thumb wrestle: #24 vs. #117 in the latest available NSF &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/nsf06323/pdf/tab27.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rankings&lt;/a&gt; and #9 vs #105 in the NIH &lt;a href=&quot;http://grants.nih.gov/grants/award/rank/medttl04.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rankings&lt;/a&gt;. 

You guys have a long way to go before you develop a Chemistry Dept. even close to Pitt&#039;s, or a center of medical excellence even close to Starzl&#039;s transplant clinic.

But you do beat the pants off of us in USDA support. GO WVU!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, no need to thumb wrestle: #24 vs. #117 in the latest available NSF <a href="http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/nsf06323/pdf/tab27.pdf" rel="nofollow">rankings</a> and #9 vs #105 in the NIH <a href="http://grants.nih.gov/grants/award/rank/medttl04.htm" rel="nofollow">rankings</a>. </p>
<p>You guys have a long way to go before you develop a Chemistry Dept. even close to Pitt&#8217;s, or a center of medical excellence even close to Starzl&#8217;s transplant clinic.</p>
<p>But you do beat the pants off of us in USDA support. GO WVU!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://klishis.com/notreally/archives/2191/comment-page-1#comment-2761</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 14:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ll take the second, but I&#039;ll thumb wrestle you about the first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ll take the second, but I&#8217;ll thumb wrestle you about the first.</p>
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		<title>By: John the Scientist</title>
		<link>http://klishis.com/notreally/archives/2191/comment-page-1#comment-2760</link>
		<dc:creator>John the Scientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 13:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Pitt now beats WVU in both research &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; partying. :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Pitt now beats WVU in both research <i>and</i> partying. :p</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://klishis.com/notreally/archives/2191/comment-page-1#comment-2755</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case you couldn&#039;t tell, I&#039;m rather protective of the reputation of WVU, and get very unhappy with people who tarnish that reputation. (See &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Henry_(wide_receiver)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chris Henry&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_%22Pacman%22_Jones&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pacman Jones&lt;/a&gt; for others who have incurred my wrath by making WVU look bad.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you couldn&#8217;t tell, I&#8217;m rather protective of the reputation of WVU, and get very unhappy with people who tarnish that reputation. (See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Henry_(wide_receiver)" rel="nofollow">Chris Henry</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_%22Pacman%22_Jones" rel="nofollow">Pacman Jones</a> for others who have incurred my wrath by making WVU look bad.)</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://klishis.com/notreally/archives/2191/comment-page-1#comment-2753</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a question of what would be admissible.

There was no evidence that she had completed her degree requirements, except hearsay. Three of his top advisers attended the meeting where she was given her degree. There are reports that there was pressure exerted at the meeting to give her a degree. Members of the committee who were to make the decision were given a single weekend to find evidence related to the case. Heather Bresch&#039;s first call was to Garrison, personally. Not only is Heather Bresh the daughter of the governor, she is also COO to a company that is one of the largest contributors to WVU (the football stadium is named after the head and founder of the company).

Do we have a tape of Garrison telling people to give her the degree? No. Do we have anyone willing to say they were directly told to give her a degree, regardless of the evidence? No.

But what we do have is a president with direct connections to the governor--connections that were a concern to the WVU community during the interview process, and led the faculty senate to consider a vote of no confidence a week after he was selected. We have a president who&#039;s focus has been upon fund-raising.  We have a student who was given a degree despite all evidence to the contrary that she did the work to complete her degree requirements. We have a situation where a decision was made within a few days of her phone call to the university president.

We have had multiple resignations in response to the scandal already, yet Garrison&#039;s response has been primarily to say that it wasn&#039;t his fault, and when the student newspaper sponsored a forum where students could speak out about the scandal, Garrison was &quot;unable to attend.&quot;

WVU has been struggling for years to change it&#039;s image from a top party school to an institution with top-notch research and education. Garrison&#039;s actions have done nothing to help the image of the university, and a great deal to harm it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a question of what would be admissible.</p>
<p>There was no evidence that she had completed her degree requirements, except hearsay. Three of his top advisers attended the meeting where she was given her degree. There are reports that there was pressure exerted at the meeting to give her a degree. Members of the committee who were to make the decision were given a single weekend to find evidence related to the case. Heather Bresch&#8217;s first call was to Garrison, personally. Not only is Heather Bresh the daughter of the governor, she is also COO to a company that is one of the largest contributors to WVU (the football stadium is named after the head and founder of the company).</p>
<p>Do we have a tape of Garrison telling people to give her the degree? No. Do we have anyone willing to say they were directly told to give her a degree, regardless of the evidence? No.</p>
<p>But what we do have is a president with direct connections to the governor&#8211;connections that were a concern to the WVU community during the interview process, and led the faculty senate to consider a vote of no confidence a week after he was selected. We have a president who&#8217;s focus has been upon fund-raising.  We have a student who was given a degree despite all evidence to the contrary that she did the work to complete her degree requirements. We have a situation where a decision was made within a few days of her phone call to the university president.</p>
<p>We have had multiple resignations in response to the scandal already, yet Garrison&#8217;s response has been primarily to say that it wasn&#8217;t his fault, and when the student newspaper sponsored a forum where students could speak out about the scandal, Garrison was &#8220;unable to attend.&#8221;</p>
<p>WVU has been struggling for years to change it&#8217;s image from a top party school to an institution with top-notch research and education. Garrison&#8217;s actions have done nothing to help the image of the university, and a great deal to harm it.</p>
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		<title>By: Janiece</title>
		<link>http://klishis.com/notreally/archives/2191/comment-page-1#comment-2751</link>
		<dc:creator>Janiece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 18:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Michael on this one (at least I think I am - his position isn&#039;t very clear in your post).  People&#039;s impressions aside, if you couldn&#039;t make a case for his censure in civil court, then he shouldn&#039;t be censured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Michael on this one (at least I think I am &#8211; his position isn&#8217;t very clear in your post).  People&#8217;s impressions aside, if you couldn&#8217;t make a case for his censure in civil court, then he shouldn&#8217;t be censured.</p>
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